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Do any of you have any experience with the ministry of Ernest Angley? Thoughts? Warnings? Testimonies?
Thanks.
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BobinGermany
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I am not one to judge but after watching alot of his shows, personally I think he is a fake. Forgive me if I am wrong... Just my opinion.
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He is easy to imitate.
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mayflower
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Never heard of him.
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BobinGermany
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He's one of those tele-evangists that ask for money and then slap you in the forhead and says YOU ARE HEALED! Seriously though. Jesus healed many people, never asked for money, and never made a spectacle out of it. That is what I base my opinion on...
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mayflower
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Good thing to base your opinion on!
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Been to one of his services
Seen him on TV
I,ve nothing to say to judge him
Perhaps neither should we.
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BobinGermany
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Like I mentioned in a previous post. Jesus never asked for money when healing someone. Never made it a spectacle. Personally I feel that Angley couldn't heal anything. Seems he loves the money though. If that is not true he would heal just as Jesus did.
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Good point, Bren. I do not know whether Angley is sincere or not, that is between him & God. I do know of a childhood friend who was healed from deafness many years ago at one of Angley's services, certified by the friend's own doctor. Makes one stop & think, doesn't it. Guess it's up to God as to who He uses, and sometimes appearances can be deceiving.
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BobinGermany
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I think alot of the "healing" from people like Earnest is possibly not really a miracle but just having someone on TV that you believe in to tell you that you are healed. Like I said earlier. Jesus never went before great crowds and healed. He did it pretty much in private and he gave all of the glory to God. No spectacle, no TV, no big crowds, no asking for money. If Earnest is truly a man of God he would do his healing in a private place with noone but him and the person needing the healing to be there. He would never be on TV asking for money and "showing" the miracles. I believe one time he was "selling" Holy towles or rags or something and he said if you put this over your wallet and send me some money all of your needs will be met. Wow.... Well.. Just my opinion. I try to see these "healers" in accordance to what Jesus did when He was here on the earth with us.
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Edited by BobinGermany (12/18/05 09:45 PM)
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The man lying on a mat who was lowered through the hole dug in the roof I think was healed before a large crowd – also the man with the withered hand healed on the Sabbath and let me add the woman with the issue of blood who made her way through a crowd to touch Jesus’ garment.
It takes money to purchase a Church building, radio and t.v. time. Because time is running out – Jesus will be returning soon – the Church should use all technology available to reach the lost.
God Bless!
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Excellent points, Dragonslayer!! BTW, love your username.
It is difficult for me to post in threads such as this. While I do not agree with or support Angley's ministry, I also know the dangers of letting my personal opinions interfere. As I stated earlier it really isn't up to me to judge what is between one man's heart and God. Nor will I speculate on the actual validity of a miracle. The friend I mentioned earlier was deaf, period. Documented by his own doctor. After the healing service, he wasn't. Period. Documented by his own doctor, once again.
I just think it is so easy to limit what God can & will do, and who He will do it through, simply by our thinking, expectations, and judgements. No, Angley is nothing like our dear Lord & Savior, but then again, I don't know anyone who is.
By the way, this friend of mine grew up to be an army chaplain, and has served our country for over 20 years, ministering to our soldiers. Hm, not bad! Funny thing is, he would not have passed the physical to get into the military if he had still been deaf.
YSIC Kathyfrances
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Wow Kathy  thank you for sharing that, I am not sure who Ernest Angley is, but that is a wonderful testamony. God uses all kinds of people, he doesnt really care what we think Hehehehe just the thought of God saying should I use this one? And asking us...He uses a lot of people that most of us would think no way!!
Good post Kathy, your a blessing here 
God bless and Merry Christmas to you all!!
Love Sharon
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i "believe" the Lord uses us all! Every last FLAWED one of us!!!Isnt our God Amazing!  PTL! The Holy Spirit gives each of us "spiritual gifts" AND different portions of "fruits" to every one of us!!
i have seen his Jesus Glorifying ministry many times on tv and "tested the spirits" and i deeply believe that he is being used of God in miraculas ways! PTL! GLORY TO GOD!
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A problem that almost naturally evolves concerning televangelists is the error of thinking that any one of them actually does anything. We humans have a tendency to begin to identify what we see done as being done by an Angley or a Hinn or whomever. I am persuaded, as another has stated, that the primary purpose of the average televangelist is to raise funds for their personal kingdoms, that their performances are essentially ego trips. That does not mean that God will not use a particular place and time to meet and minister to an individual without regard to the human in the spotlight. Problem is that in too many cases even those experiencing the occasional legitimate miracle tend to credit the human, not the Living God.
Saw Ernest on TV years ago. A woman probably in her 40's who alledgedly had been blind from birth was "healed." There was no show of excitement or emotion on her part. She quietly said, "I can see." I remember thinking that Ernest should have hired better actors.
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Blessings Brother Cupbearer...
it appears in scripture, to be more of a sin to attribute the works of the Holy Spirit to satan... than vice versa.
i believe as "BELIVERS" we should look for the good, look for the wisdom in each part of the body of Christ...OF COURSE we all have flaws and sins and inadequasies(thats a given) but the "accuser of the brethern" is working full time ESPECIALLY these days to make the flaws THE focus, not the power of The Lord in us(person of The Holy Spirit!)
Why do some think that the Lord cannot POSSIBLY use a sinful creature like ..."so and so".... Sorry but there are non RIGHTEOUS! We are all sinfull creatures!
Why do we not magnify the good, The MANY wonderous works of The Holy Spirit THROUGH US???
We should NOT immediatly side with the enemy every time we hear slanderous talk of a servant of the Lord! Sorry but MOST DO!
This is THE MOST COMMON TRAIT of the "Apostate"(i have studied in depth please challenge me on this one!  )
btw, please note im not suggesting you are an "apostate"!
i am challenging EVERYONE to research the TRUE meaning from ONLY scripture itself, so we KNOW that we cannot just throw that word around, currently MOST have a distorted belief of the true prophesy(Apostasy)!!!!!!!i trust in the LORD'S MIGHTY Power to WORK so that MANY MORE ARE FREED FROM BECOMING/BEING actual "APOSTATES"! Amen, Let it be so!
Jesus is Lord and  We are merely instruments for His Glory! We CAN NEVER remove our humanness. We will always be flawed and sin until we are with Him!  He is perfecting us day by day but this is a life time occurance. We are COMMANDED to "test the spirits" so we can "know" when "the Holy Spirit" is present! Why did the Lord SPECIFICALLY tell us to do IT this WAY??? i do not know , BUT HE DID!(1Cor12:3:1John4:2)
GOD BLESS YOU!
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I just thought I would add to the idea that Jesus never made a "spectacle" when doing something. If you would read John 2:13-22 and tell me what you would call that, I'd be much obliged. Plus, when he comes back, and does what he will do with only the word of his mouth, that might also be considered a spectacle, but that’s just my opinion. Thanks for reading, and may God Bless your lives!
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Please forgive my rant.
i think i might relaps into prior debates with family members...and i think i might be loosin it sometimes. 
sorry bout dat! 
God bless you!
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2 Peter 2:1-3
(1) But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.
(2) Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned;
(3) and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
1 Timothy 1:3-5
(3) As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines,
(4) nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.
(5) But the goal of our instruction is love from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
Titus 1:10-16
(10) For there are many rebellious men, empty talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,
(11) who must be silenced because they are upsetting whole families, teaching things they should not teach for the sake of sordid gain.
(12) One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, "Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons."
(13) This testimony is true. For this reason reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith,
(14) not paying attention to Jewish myths and commandments of men who turn away from the truth.
(15) To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled.
(16) They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.
2 John 1:9-11
(9) Anyone who goes too far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son.
(10) If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house, and do not give him a greeting;
(11) for the one who gives him a greeting participates in his evil deeds.
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Blessings Brother Cupbearer...
it appears in scripture, to be more of a sin to attribute the works of the Holy Spirit to satan... than vice versa.
I STRONGLY disagree with this concept, back it up with Scripture
1 Kings 14:22-23
(22) Judah did evil in the sight of the LORD, and they provoked Him to jealousy more than all that their fathers had done, with the sins which they committed.
(23) For they also built for themselves high places and sacred pillars and Asherim on every high hill and beneath every luxuriant tree.
1 Kings 16:25-26
(25) Omri did evil in the sight of the LORD, and acted more wickedly than all who were before him.
(26) For he walked in all the way of Jeroboam the son of Nebat and in his sins which he made Israel sin, provoking the LORD God of Israel with their idols.
1 Kings 16:30-33
(30) Ahab the son of Omri did evil in the sight of the LORD more than all who were before him.
(31) It came about, as though it had been a trivial thing for him to walk in the sins of Jeroboam the son of Nebat, that he married Jezebel the daughter of Ethbaal king of the Sidonians, and went to serve Baal and worshiped him.
(32) So he erected an altar for Baal in the house of Baal which he built in Samaria.
(33) Ahab also made the Asherah. Thus Ahab did more to provoke the LORD God of Israel than all the kings of Israel who were before him.
The most evil to Yahveh Elohim is to bring pagan and worldly idols and practices and ways into His house.
Mixing and blending pagan worship ways with Worship of Him is what God views as more of a sin.
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